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โธ 20d ago
Hi everybody!
I learned about reticulum from the page freie-messenger.de - and it's definitely one of
the coolest things I learned about in the last months.
I have a few beginner questions. But let's first check if I'm able to use this interface
correctly, and if this text appears.
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โธ 20d ago
Ok, seems to work :-) So here are my questions:
(1) Can I expect that a reticulum based communication between me, a guy sitting at home
using a laptop, and someone walking around with a mobile phone, is a suitable replacement
for something like, say, Signal? I don't mean fancy stuff and groups, but can I expect
that it works relyably enough to be usable in situations like "my bus arrives in 10
minutes, please pick me up!"? I assume "yes, if you know what you are doing" so, sorry,
I didn't mean to offend anyone.
But which programs should we use for daily chats? On the laptop I would like to have
some kind of notification on the desktop so that I don't miss any message. I guess
nomadnet would not be the best fit here - so sideband? It seems to have notifications (I
get some text bubbles on the screen), although the icon in the sidebar doesn't blink for
me. Or meshchatx? The best thing would be something permanent, that blinks or whatever
until I check the new messages. I'm on Debian if it matters.
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โธ 20d ago
(2) So far the feature "messages are delayed, not dismissed, and delivered when the other
peer gets reachable" didn't work for us. What are the conditions to have conversations
with this feature? Do we have to select a certain propagation node, something else? I
did not check how this feature is technically implemented. But sideband did give a
feedback that sounded like it would work as I expect. But when the other peer got
available, nothing happened, and the message did not get delivered. When both peers are
connected, communication always works normally.
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โธ 20d ago
(3) Is using a lora pager like device in a small city a realistic alternative for a
smarphone (I hate smartphones) to be able to communicate? Would I have to install a
small radio antenna in or on my house? My area has no lora nodes in the nearer
surroundings.
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โธ 20d ago
Ah, ok, and this one:
(4) When using a smartphone, is it realistic that the "app" (like sideband) doesn't use
too much of the battery constantly all the time, and it still "wakes up" when there is a
new lxmf message? It would be unfortunate when the battery is empty after 4 hours or
so...or if the smartphone owner misses my messages. I ask because here on my laptop, I
see constant data exchange with the reticulum net. I know about these 2% of the
bandwidth that I can change, it doesn't matter here much, but on the smartphone something
like "look only every 2 minutes, sleep the rest of the time" might be better. Sorry if
this is a nonsense question, I don't know much about these devices.
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โธ 20d ago
(5) What is the easiest way to support reticulum for somebody who is not completely
unclever but never used a crypto currency? In your opinion? Financial support? Spread
the word and tell friends?
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โธ 20d ago
(6) What is a good setup for a Debian user (me)? I really don't want to mess with
systemd, I want to run things locally. Does it make sense to run lxmd in the background,
started with user privileges? Or rnsd? I have installed everything with pipx. I plan
to always have something running to be able to be notified when a message to my lxmf
addresss arrives.
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โธ 20d ago
Ok - that's it. I apologize for this overwhelming amount of text. If you think this was
unkind, please tell me. Or you could tell me "RTFM" (and maybe which parts...). I read
through it but not everything, I'm on a tour atm and thought it would be a good moment of
time to just ask before diving into the technical details.
Thank you for reading up to here, thanks for everyone making this stuff possible, all of
it, and have a nice day!
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โธ 20d ago
Ok - that's it. I apologize for this overwhelming amount of text. If you think this was
unkind, please tell me. Or you could tell me "RTFM" (and maybe which parts...). I read
through it but not everything, I'm on a tour atm and thought it would be a good moment of
time to just ask before diving into the technical details.
Thank you for reading up to here, thanks for everyone making this stuff possible, all of
it, and have a nice day!
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โธ 19d ago
(1) Can I expect that a reticulum based communication....
Not really. Most are used to centralized server based comms with push services. If you
have all set up properly and are using a properly set up and reliable interface for
transport, you can expect pretty much very fast and stable comms. If you go over LoRa and
for example use a TCP interface server somewhere half-way around the world, that is not
capable or set up properly, you might expect delays and/or messages not going trough.
This is why it is important to properly set up local resources like TCP Backbones,
LoRa-TCP gateways on good locations, local propagation nodes, etc. You cannot expect to
buy a cheap LoRa node or use someone else's TCP Backbone, a random propagation node and
have reliable comms. This is what owning your means of communication means - actively
developing them to be reliable, stable and lasting. In my case I can rely on all these
locally, so my messaging, with tiny exceptions, is very fast and smooth.
(2) So far the feature "messages are delayed, not dismissed...
Again - just select a reliable propagation node. I cannot judge for others and I have no
idea where you are, but I can suggest you try rns.sofia prop, because I can say it is
very much stable and absolutely properly configured - 1e96a12e2ac59bfebd604a6e3cb95a68
Sometimes LXMD dies on me, but i catch it pretty fast and restart it. For now I have no
active means to automate this.
(3) Is using a lora pager like device in a small city a realistic alternative...
Well it depends heavily on many factors. IF we take for granted you have already setup a
proper backend, TCP, prop, etc., the radio aspect depends heavily on propagation
conditions in your area, laws, gear, placement of nodes, setup of nodes, etc. Small town
is far from good description of where you want to deploy, what you want to deploy.
Reticulum is not an easy drop-in solution for anything, it's a tool you have to learn to
use, deploy, maintain. In my case it took mor than 7 months to get to this - [rns.sofia
network](https://rns.recipes/forum/showcase/aethernode-and-aethermobi-building-blocks-for-
urban-deployments) and I still have to put up the LoRa network, so any meaningful
coverage can allow for me to go over LoRa fully and dismiss TCP. Yes, I am in a 2.5
million deep city and running 433MHz, but still.
(4) When using a smartphone, is it realistic that the "app" (like sideband) doesn't use
too much of the battery...
You are no more the end user to a service. YOU ARE the network. There is no PUSH, no
servers doing the heavy lifting. YOU ARE the endpoint. You have to listen to announces,
resolve paths actively, wait for messages. This takes battery. And if you go for the
ultimate goal of SHARING your hardware by enabling Transport mode, so you can retranslate
other's messages, you will drain battery even faster.
(5) What is the easiest way to support reticulum for somebody who is...
https://liberapay.com/~1880498/
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